I guess I’m talking more about spirits than people.
JVP: I really do believe the soul is pure love, and I think that’s really what it’s about. I worked with trance energy, as well, and people often think, “Oh, God, you get possessed or it’s evil.” And, it’s really not. Man makes that evil. Man creates that. I think the soul is pure love, so I’ve never had to deal with anything of that negative sort, except from the living. All of that is fear-based, and people will create with fear. I do believe there are various levels of spirituality, from the very unevolved to the very evolved, but I think the unevolved will kill each other. War is not the right way. Hatred, unevolved.
But as far as the spirit world goes, the Bible says, “The father has a house with many mansions.” I believe there are various levels of spiritual conditions or levels that you go to based upon how you lived your life. So those people who are not good to other people when they are living will go to a level with the conditions they have created on the Earth — and there will be other people on the same level with them. It’s almost like nursery school or graduate school. They will go to nursery school, because they still have a lot to learn about love.
I think that we also move through these levels together in groups — soul groups.
JVP: We definitely work with soul groups. I often tell people it’s like, “Let’s go take a class together.” We’ve done it before, so we come back to Earth and we take classes. Not only do we evolve ourselves spiritually and our own souls, but, like you said, we evolve the soul group, as well. We have responsibility to other people in our group — and really, everybody — to help bring them up, as well. We all have to help. We all have to evolve. You know, I had a near-death experience five years ago and it was really interesting.
Were you in an accident or something?
JVP: I had food poisoning and I was retching for 12 hours. I didn’t realize it at the time, but I lost four pints of blood and I blacked out in the bathroom on the floor. I popped out of my body, and I’m like, “Oh, my God, what happened here?” And I knew that I wasn’t dead. I knew I was not going to die that way, because I just knew intrinsically that this was not my time. But I’m like, “What’s going on here?”
And I saw my cousin, who committed suicide forty years before, and she looked at me. It was the first time I had seen her, believe it or not, and I said, “What’s going on here?”
She said, “It’s going to be over, it will be all over.”
And then I had the awareness that every one of us is connected, and that there is what I would call a ribbon, and we all connect to this tapestry or matrix above us. Everything we do and create and think is reflected in that tapestry. Every thought has a color to it. If you have good thoughts, let’s say pastel colors come out and they blend and bleed into that tapestry and that matrix. Negative thoughts and darker thoughts create very dark, shady, limited energy that bleeds into that tapestry. At the end of your life, part of that life review is to look back at that tapestry and you see what you have created and how it affected every single other person.
That was the awareness I had at that near-death experience. It was really profound and it goes along with what I’ve learned over my whole life of doing this type of work. And recently I have been working on this new book about the voyage of the soul. I’ve read and have done some research — and sure enough, other people, professors and doctors, who talk about the near-death experience describe the matrix or the web.
And you’ve seen it.
JVP: I’ve seen it. So, it’s all about the conditions that we create with the mind. If people took responsibility and realized that thoughts are things, boy, wouldn’t they live a lot differently?
Is there a predominant message that the majority of the deceased want us to understand about life and how to live it?
JVP: Yes, it really does come back to love, about not taking life for granted. Live every single moment and make the best of every single moment with the energy of love. They tell us that life is a series of choices, and the choice is either based upon love or fear. A lot of the spirits who come back talk about how they lived in fear and that if they had lived in love, it would have been a fuller life. So, they always come back and talk to relatives and loved ones about living in love, about the need to forgive, about the need to demonstrate compassion. They will often come back and talk about those things.
And yet, it’s hard for us sometimes in bodies to just let it go and live that freely.
JVP: Yes, because we’re so conditioned with the human part of us, it’s hard to get out of it every once and a while. If you can have the perspective of being a spiritual person having a physical experience, that’s very different than just thinking you’re human. You are really a soul having this physical experience and that’s all it is. So, if you can look at life from a soul perspective, you will make your choices very differently. You’ll interact with people very differently. It makes a big difference when you start living a spiritual life.
And life takes on this almost multidimensional aspect, and it is fun when you see if from different perspectives.
JVP: It’s about what you’re creating with your thoughts and your words, and how you treat people. People ask me, “How do you become mindful every day?” And I respond that when I’m with somebody, let’s say in an elevator or at a coffee shop or whatever, I will smile at them. I will treat them like I wanted to be treated. The Golden Rule. And, because we’re all connected, you want to create a positive energy. So, if someone is having a bad day or a fearful day, or whatever it might be, you can bring that person a sense of love, gratitude and happiness. Everybody knows what that is, but they forget it.
So my job — all of our jobs, really — is to be aware that every day when we’re alive is an opportunity to change someone else’s life or energy or help to remember who they truly are. I just do that by making them feel good, saying, “How are you today? It’s a beautiful day out there!” Taking the time to do that makes a big difference. And remember that it just doesn’t make a difference in that person’s life. It affects everybody else they interact with that day — the ripple effect.
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Very interesting and insightful – I really enjoyed the article